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NOOO they be stealin' my Arts


There's an Internet Rumour going around about Orphaned Works Bill. Apparently, the bill would make is possible to a)use people's works without crediting, and b)kill puppies*. Except for the part where a)that's not exactly what it says, and b) the bill died in committee two years ago.

Also, the article in question is pretty much wrong, as is the big fuss on dA. Needless to say, the reasonable, considered article is being disregarded in favour of the more sensationalist slant.

*Would you trust that man? Would you? I mean, really?

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littleBigPS3fanits

Recently, at the Game Developer's Conference 2007(GDC), one of the several conferences and expos that have gained importance since E3 went down, down, in a later round, a new PS3 game was spotlighted, giving the PS3 some good pub for a change. And they certainly need it, since, seemingly, everything that proceeds from their mouth turns to lead.

The game in question is LittleBigPlanet
The presentation was duly Dugg, and this is where it gets really interesting. There is no shortage of PS3 fanits on digg and the rest of the Internet, and they like to make fun of the Wii and 360 for various reasons. The funny thing is, none of these are good reasons. Most aren't even valid, like they're being pulled from some bizarro universe. They make fun of Xbots for having to pay for their online. Except that it's about five bucks a month, and, from all accounts, better than the PS3 online, at least right now. And that's pretty much all they've got, except for declaring anyone who calls them on their BS points about the 360 fanboys. They make fun of the Wii for its comparitavely low power, lack of HD, 'gimmicky' controller, kiddy image, and claim all the games are glorified tech demos. Before launch, they claimed only fanboys would buy the Wii. Almost five months and over four million in sales-Nintendo literally can't keep them on the shelves-later, they're claiming that people will be tired of it in a year, after the games dry up. Apparently, the bizarro-universe includes a bizarro-Earth where developers see systems that are cheap and easy to develop for selling like hotcakes covered in crack and decide not to make games for them.

LBP looks, from the videos, like a "Line Rider meets Garry's Mod meets Super Mario Bros. meets an orgasm", according to Kotaku. I'm inclined to agree. It's basically a physics-based co-op platformer, with cute little characters, happy little music, and, biggest of all, user-made levels.

According to the Sony fanboys, it's all about the physics and the pretty.

It's amazing. They roast Nintendo for being 'kiddy' and their 'tech demos', yet when something like this comes out, those complaints are nowhere to be found. It's also something that can only be done on the PS3. Despite the game being something that could be done on the 360, easily, except Sony bought the developer. That's right, they just pulled a Microsoft, buying the team outright like Microsoft bought Bungie, the makers of Halo.

Heck, check out the Joystiq post for yourself. Watch the tasty callouts. And the fanits almost nowhere to be found.

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The Cut n' Paste guide to responding to pirates.

As you may have noticed, I dislike piracy. What I've noticed, in my endless war against people uploading Naruto episode 23524345 on YouTube(seriously, how could anyone think that's even remotely legal?), I keep finding the same few arguments, which can all be countered by the same few rebuttals. I even put them in cut n' pasteable forms, though due to Blogger's limitations, you may need to add line breaks. Tell your friends.

I can't get the anime/music/whatever I want here in the States!

And? How does that justify piracy?


They're too expensive!

Then save up, or don't buy it at all. And while you're at it, explain how you deserve the product despite the fact that you're not paying for it? "Gee, officer, I needed this Ferrari, but I didn't have several hundred grand, so I just took it. Is that okay?"


I wouldn't have bought it anyway!
1. Then you shouldn't have it.2. Yet it was still considered valuable enough to download. Huh.


It's copyright infringement, not theft.
1. You have something you're not supposed to, because you did not meet the owner's terms. That's pretty much the cleanest definition of 'theft' available.
2. For the sake of argument, lets say you're right. So you're performing one morally reprehensible act rather than another.


It's not fair for them to charge that much!
Nope. It 'not fair' for you to steal. According to our economic system, people can charge whatever they want for anything non-essential, whose prices are usually regulated by government. They can charge the moon, but you don't have to buy it. And if you think of anime as an 'essential', you need help.


I already own the game on NES/Genesis/SNES/etc., I shouldn't have to buy it again!
That's right. You own the game. For the NES. Not the Wii, not the GBA, not the PC, the NES. In fact, what you own is basically a pretty box, a piece of removable media with some data on it, and a software license that grants you the right to play it on the system you bought it on. Nothing else. If anyone owns the game, it's Nintendo, or the manufacturer. Not you.



Downloading anime is okay if it's not licensed in the US!
Nice euphemism use. The argument itself is irrelevant, though; the Berne Convention, first adopted in 1886, states that a copyright in one country applies in all of the signatures of the convention. Japan signed on in 1899, and the US helped create the thing. (Canada too.) It's illegal to download anime, regardless of foreign licensing status, and it always has been.


It's only anime/music/an 8-bit game!
If it's so insignifigant, why do you 'need' it?


DVD sales have risen since piracy became widespread.

DVD sales have risen since they were introduced, back in the early 90s, before piracy was widespread. In fact, they just leveled off in 2005.


If corporations didn't want us to download, why don't they stop us?
For the same reason people who don't want to be hit by cars don't just stop them; they can't. Imagine an entire army of people without guns fighting a few dozen armed Marines. The marines are better armed, but they'll eventually run out of bullets and energy, and plenty of the people attacking are just as good at hand-to-hand as they are, if not better. Getting a picture?

Of course, the fact that the unarmed masses will win doesn't justify their attack.


Questions, contributions? Feel free to comment.

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Sony Defense Force ASSEMBLE! / Wii60 FTW



This is the SDF. They are a poorly-designed webpage desperately trying to support their position that the PS3 is worth at least 500 bucks of real money. Before taxes. Sadly, most of their 'justification' centers around graphics. And this would've worked in the days before Nintendo cut their legs out from under them with the Wii controller. Now people are focusing on gameplay again, and Sony's dropping a brick. Their stock is dropping, while Nintendo's is rising.

And the best these guys can do is a bunch of lame macros. For example: what is this graph of? Where did it come from? And, yes, the 360 isn't selling in Japan. So what? Isn't the EyeToy itself, a ripoff of a webcam? And, this may come as a shock, but most people don't care about HD.

Some poor, deluded fool posts on the forums about how the PS3 could end Sony. It's admittedly overdramatic, but the fanboys swarm all over him.

Originally Posted by Broomcloset12View PostIt's the sad, hard truth. Look. Nobody but EXTREMELY hardcore gamers are gonna buy the PS3.
*shakeshead* yet the Ps3 sold out worldwide,and the hype is amazing
What hype? Most Sony hype has been negative. And the first PS3 preorder sold out due to limited supply. And what does hype have to do with it, anyway?

Even then, they won't be buying games that often. They just cost too much.
Um,no games cost 60 dollars,thats not that much considering most people buy less than 6 games a year.
Which has what to do with the price of tea in China?

There aren't gonna be enough consoles at launch.

There are never enough consoles at launch


Point.
Sony will rush to make more, but intrest will have sank thanks to Wii.
Um,no the wii has proven itself to be kiddie,weak,and for japanese kids
Note the complete lack of evidence as to how a console that hasn't been released can "prove itself" to be kiddy.

So they'll make a bunch of consoles at an extreme loss, and sell very few of them.
Extreme loss? sell a few of them?
wow
Note that neither of them have any actual evidence to support their points.

Yes when Final Fantasy and the vey few other PS3 games even worth renting come along there'll be sales, but in the long run Sony will end up making a bunch of conosles, sell less than 10% of them, and end up in a giant hole.

LMAO
Again, no sources. Personally, I don't think Sony is going to sell more than half of it's consoles in the next year.

And eventually the PS3 will just die a painful death, thanks to useless hardware and a pointless Blu-Ray drive (HD-DVD has already won the format war)

HD-DVD...win..format war.... LMFAO
Listen you litte fuckface,the HD-DVD hasnt won shit,its actually lost support,while Blu-ray is gaining support over 90% of Hollywood supports Blu-ray,Dell,Apple and HP support Blu-ray,Sun and LG support Blu-ray,Disney supports Blu-ray
Finally, a valid point.

and the fact that only about 10% of PS3s will be able to use the system's full potential, it's just gonna be a hard downward spiral ending with Sony going dead, thanks to low selling TVs and other electronics. Expect all big Playstation franchises to be on XBox/Wii by 2008.

The 360 is selling worse the xbox and in Japan(the only wii haven) the Ps3 outwieghs it in polls and pre-order numbers

wii60=fail
Funny, I could've sworn the first US Wii preorders sold out, just like the first PS3 preorders.

wii60 two v. one? gawd shut up Japanese Amazon sold out its stock of Ps3s in less than 10 seconds the Ps3 pwns the wii in pre-orders in Japan,STFU,


btw Wii60 is a joke,how can it be about graphics or gameplay at the same time?
Oh. Wow. Mind you, this is the guy who just said that Japan was the "only Wii haven", and in his next post he's using it to back up the PS3. And watch him ignore his earlier wrong point completely!

Heck, I'm not even sure the site is real.(NSFW)

I'm not saying the Wii60 guys aren't the same, if not worse. I mean, look at their lame macros. But they're not as annoying. But this is a pretty big OH SNAP moment. Or is it?

More news as this develops.

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Microsoft ruined Office 2007.

I've thought often about how MS's improvements in IE 6 and 7 were spurred by Firefox nipping at their heels. Now, get this: they done gone and made Office usable.

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My first indication came when they used one of those trendy Flash videos. They're trendy because almost everyone has Flash, but not everyone wants to spend twenty minutes downloading and installing a player just to watch some guy light his farts. In short, they're just plain better.

Then I realized that the interface had all these rounded corners and gradients and stuff.

"Holy smokes," I said, "Microsoft has gone Web 2.0."

Watching the videos, I found that they had made everything, apparently, easy to find, unless you're one of those people who bleats "I'm not computer literate" everytime your son points out that he showed you how to perform this common task five years ago.

Sweet Christmas, they even have tabs.

Google better keep up.

Hooray Status Quo.

I work in an electronics store. Every few days, someone asks me if we have the PS3(no.) and when it'll be coming out(Nov. 19th). When I point out that it starts at a hundred bucks more than the 360 in the States, they tend to just smirk and go "Oh well, I know Sony makes good products." I asked one of these gentlemen why he thought it would be so much better than the 360. He said that it "Had more power." I pointed out that the games looked about the same. He reiterated his earlier point about power.

Basically: they're buying it because, dude, it's Sony. End of story. No supporting arguments or facts needed. Sony. Stop arguing. It's Sony.

The funny thing is, Sony seems to be doing their best to shoot themselves in the foot. From executives who seem to be living in Bizarro world, to games that have been seen as nothing more than a trailer at 2005's E3, fanboys are ducking and weaving to avoid the truth like they're playing tag: the PS3 doesn't look much better than the 360. In fact, some appear to have no sense of humour or logic at all.

Not that I'm saying that there aren't other fanboys, oh no. Nintendo's fanboys are equal in number, but much more rabid. Both take any bad news from any blogs or news site as evidence of a bias. Remember that scene in the Jurassic Park book where Ian Malcolm points out that the Gaussian distribution of dinosaurs shouldn't be there? Most of the time, there's more bad or good news for one console than another. That's not "bias", it's reality. Can't have that.

One of the editiors of Official Playstation Magazine made a post on why he's getting a PS3 at launch. There was an immediate fanboy crapstorm. Achtung: pointing out flaws in something =/= bashing!


Chadwick

Cry babies...


Posted at Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:25:19 EDT
Thats what alot of people are being right now. All they do is look at the bad sections of a launch.

$600 is alot. But is it so much that people have to cry about it? Yet they don't mind spending over $1000 for a computer they will have to upgrade in like 2 days just to play the newest games?
Wow. They have to resort to comparing it to PCs. A grand is average for a high-end gaming rig. A half-grand is a lot for a gaming machine.

And I would just like to point out something: the $500 PS3 is still comparable to the Premium XBox 360. Except it costs a hundred bucks more, and doesn't come with a memory card reader, or integrated wireless. And those aren't upgradable features.

Your getting a deal with a PS3. Who knows what it will be able to do in 5 years?
1. Oh, I dunno, PLAY GAMES?
2. Wasn't this the same guy who was complaining about having to upgrade PCs five seconds ago?

With unlimited ideas going through peoples head, so much can be added.
What?

Just look at the PSP, its changed alot since its release a year ago and that just the begining. If you don't want to spend that much on something that will evolve into so much more, then either wait or just don't get one. Don't sit here and cry about the price because your mommy can't fork over the cash.

Whe have seen wonderful machines from Sony. And the PS3 is the greatest so far. So many beautiful things inside the shiny black box. It'll out do any of these other consoles, of course they all have there strong points. But in the long run, in 5 years the PS3 will be twice the machine it is today. Think about it.
The last paragraph was so creepy that it made me imagine some fanboy somewhere gently thrusting himself upon the PS3, over and over.

Sony fanboys always try to sound smart. And they tend to fail completely. On of their favorite points is to claim that anyone with a "real job: can afford the PS3, while those who complain about the price lives in their Mom's basement. Aside from the autolose, they tend to ignore the people who point out that they have jobs and still won't buy it. One dude on Joystiq said he had a six-figure salary, and they diverted it into a discussion of the price of living, leaving the original topic entirely. Bra-vo.

The fanboys I encounter in reality are grown men, but they sound exactly the same. They don't know enough about the system to know when it's launching, but apparently knowing it's Sony is more than enough to make a decision.

These are the same fanboys, mind you, who dismiss the Wii as a "last-gen system with a gimmick controller", then turn around and laud the tilt sensor in the PS3 controller as being able to steal games from Wii make the Wii less unique. These are the same fanboys who claim that the controller isn't a ripoff because it uses "technology that's been around for years". Funny, that's exactly why you said the Wii wasn't innovative, that it was "gimmicky".


shock_combo

point of the article


Posted at Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:52:17 EDT
was to tell people to stop the ps3 bashing. all of you 360 owners are now afraid that they should have bought hardware that came out at the right time and had better technology inside of it. you are all scared that you will be left in the dust and be forced to buy another console. Come november 17th, next-gen finally happens.
Funny, isn't that Sony's company line? Almost word for word, in fact.

Barry619

I'd just like to remind everybody....



People have been saying there going PS3 because it's "future-proof", but no-one on the planet at this time knows how HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray will turn out, not a single person can tell you for sure what will become the next standard for watching Movies on. And would microsoft really not be using a bigger format if they thought it was needed? I think MS have had enough experience through there years to know when a increase in size is really needed.
I'm not sure why Sony thought they needed a gaming console with more power than most high-end PCs have, myself. Consoles don't need as much power as PCs, because they can devote more power to games.

You can recognize a Sony fanboy, because he uses "XBots" and "Wiitards", and sincerely believes the Wii will not sell out this holiday season, because it's Nintendo, and therefore "kiddy", and the PS3 will, because it's Sony, therefore awesome. Also, the XBox 360 shouldn't be bought because it's not worth $600.

I want to know where all the XBox 360 fanboys are. The system has turned out to be a solid one, but there is almost no one rabidly defending it on forums, describing all of it's detractors as "PlaySuckers".


Citizen_Ska

A lot of good points.


Posted at Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:35:52 EDT

The price debate really makes no sense to me either. I can only see a $200 price difference being a big deal for a 15 year old with no job. I can't exactly whip $200 bucks out whenever I want but I could easily budget or save for it. If you really don't want a PS3 then I can see how $200 more could easily persuade someone.
Saving $200 bucks more for the future vs. a comparable experience on another system right now. Got it.

If $100 more for the lower end PS3 is really an issue then that really depends on the person and not the general public. From my experience the general public wastes a lot of money on useless shit they don't need.
Who needs a game console with a hi-def DVD player, exactly?

Honestly there are millions of playstation 2 fans out there and you really can't judge who is willing to spend the money for by forum posts on 1up. We represent a really small population of the gamers out there.
Because "representative samples" don't exist. And millions of people who bought the weakest console last-gen can't be wrong. By that logic, the Wii will trounce both Sony and Microsoft.

People keep trashing Sony about the Blu-player issue but Sony will always be a business looking for profit and market share. From a business stand point it's a fantastic way to give Blu-Ray a push. It's like sending the trojan horse out. You can stick up for whatever company you want but even Nintendo and Microsoft are in this business for money. Trust me, Nintendo isn't families first, profit second.
So Sony bundling a needless DVD player with their system is thinking about the children. Also, profits aren't the same as money.

Sony is a business. They're in it to make money. The only problem is, the PSX through PS3 have been straight losses. That's a decade of losing billions on their best-selling consoles. Microsoft just got here five years back, and they actually expect to start turning a profit next year.

What is really odd and sick about this is that these debates have become so political. Videogames! Stinkin Videogames!! I thought these things were suppose to be fun...
This is the guy who, five paragraphs back, was pointing out that you need an HDTV for both the 360 and PS3. What was that about "fun"?

The other day, some guy came in asking for Madden 07. We didn't have it, and I asked him why he wanted it. He said something about Superstar mode, and how it would let you "create a player", trailing off. Create-A-Player has been standard in sports games for half a decade.

Basically; dude, it's Madden. Got it.

Some things never change.
Edit: This is interesting.

Will y'all ignorant fanboys PLEASE shut the heck up?


Nintendo recently announced the pricing of their hotly anticipated upcoming console, the Wii. It's going to be $250, launched November 19th, and comes with one "Wiimote" and Wii Sports. The Wiimote would cost $40, the 'nunchaku' $20, and the games for the NES, SNES, and N64 the equivalent of 5, 8, and 10 dollars, respectively.

The fanboys were pissed.

This should've been seen coming. After all, Joystiq's prediction post was filled with comments to the effect that the commenters largely expected the Wii to come with two controllers, one classic controller, a bundled game, a free Virtual Console download, and a blowjob. And they could do without the blowjob. When it was revealed that the console was launching with a loadout determined by, y'know, earth logic, their fury knew no bounds.

40. I'm a bit disappointed by this news. Price at the upper end of everybody's speculation and a later release date than what Nintendo previously indicated.

At $5-10 per VC game, sorry, I will just stick with an emulator. These are games that I've already purchased (some of them, more than once) and these games would be almost pure profit for Nintendo anyway. I'm not paying 10%-20% of the price of a brand new game for a game that, while fun, is utterly obsolete.

I hope it does come with an extra controller, since they are pushing this "casual gamer, fun for the family" angle. I also hope it comes with the analog stick attachment also, as it seems it will be virtually mandatory if you want to play any but some of the most basic games.

If it comes with those extras, it's a good value. If not, meh.

Posted at 1:48AM on Sep 14th 2006 by Tukka 0 stars
The sad thing? That's one of the calmer comments. "Hey, I can't get the goods I want for the prices I want. I'll just download them, which is totally not the same as stealing!"

The thing about pirates is that they're entitlement whores. As long as something isn't exactly the way they want it, they'll steal it, no matter how negligible the difference is. If Nintendo was pricing games at a buck each, tops, they'd complain that Nintendo didn't offer any way to bundle purchase several games. If Nintendo implemented that feature, they'd complain that the ridiculously obscure games they wanted weren't available. If Nintendo managed to add every single game for each system on the Virtual Console, they'd complain that there wasn't any way to play their old carts on the Wii. If Nintendo released some sort or attachment, they'd claim that Nintendo makes to many peripherals, that they weren't re-releasing their old games, that the dongle cost more than the VC games, and so on. Any rationalization, just so they don't have to pay. The only way they would play VC games would be if Nintendo paid them, at which point they'd want to be unionized. You can't win against a pirate.

I'm not sure where the idea that the Wii is all about multiplayer came from. I could've sworn it was largely about making games A)more accesible, and B)more innovative, with multiplayer a distant third. In fact, al lot of the Wii-based(that is, developed largely or entirely for) launch games use only the Wiimote. Even the bundled game, Wii Sports, the bundled game, only uses the Nunchaku for Wii Boxing. Super Monkey Ball? Nope. Tony Hawk? Uh-uh. Exite Truck? No.

And OMG it's launching two days after the PS3! Nintendo is doomed! Never mind the fact that it launches a week before Black Monday, the start of the post-Thanksgiving shopping period! Never mind that there's a clear month before Christmas! Doomed, I say, doomed!

Here's what I don't get: one of the most common complaints is that it's now "close" to the Tard Pack 360. The one that doesn't let you download demos, games, or Live Arcade games because it doesn't have a hard drive. Since most of the games are $60, that means that they're willing to spend $160 bucks more than expected because the Wii is $50 more than expected Earth Logic what. It's also the same fifty bucks up from the actual price to the Tard pack as it was from the projected price to the actual.

It's also nice to know that the difference between "next-gen" and "repackaged Gamecube" is about fifty bucks. Achtung: we don't have the specs on the processor! The last one we had was close to twice the power of the Gamecube, and developers have stated that it's 2-3 times more powerful. Also, didn't the PS2 and XBox launch at $300?

And we have a good old-fashioned blog pissing contest. And Tycho drinks a lot of water.

Pundit out.